Will the vaccine for COVID-19 really be ready by end of the year? Experts say NO WAY absent a Medical Miracle....

[mango]

Orange Loon has suggested multiple times that a coronavirus vaccine could come within months, an accelerated timeline that prominent health experts and veteran vaccine developers say is unlikely absent a miracle.

"We're looking to get it by the end of the year if we can, maybe before," Trump said Friday during in a Rose Garden event centered on his administration's efforts to fast-track a vaccine.

“Vaccine work is looking VERY promising, before end of year,” Trump tweeted on Thursday.
But experts say that the development, testing and production of a vaccine for the public is still at least 12 to 18 months off, and that anything less would be a medical miracle.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...e-could-come-year-trump-says-experts-n1207411


We all know why the Orange Loon is falsely promising vaccines by end of the year, so he can try and steal the re-election.

kth)(&^

 

[HarryCaray]

So if a vaccine is 18 months away...staying locked down another...3 months?...surely wouldn't help anything.
It wouldn't "save" any lives, and it wouldn't "prevent" any infections.
Agreed?

 

[HarryCaray]

With it now clear that the hospital system will not be "overrun", there is no benefit in continuing to flatten the curve. Zero. Unless we are waiting for a cure/vaccine. You can't have it both ways.

It just leaves less of an economy for us to return to. Takes the livelihood away from millions of small business owners. For what? Because it makes you feel better to have 1k deaths/day for 8 months instead of 2k deaths/day for 4 months? 3 more months of hiding is not going to make it magically go away. It just prolongs the inevitable.

 

[TheComputerGroup]

Herd immunity baby, herd immunity.....let the good times roll!

 

[HarryCaray]

Mob and others around here keen on telling people they "don't respect the virus." My leftist friends opine that too many people "don't respect the seriousness of the virus."

I would posit that the ones who don't "respect the seriousness" are the ones who think a couple more months of hiding is going to make it magically go away.

 

[CHOPTALK]

With it now clear that the hospital system will not be "overrun", there is no benefit in continuing to flatten the curve. Zero. Unless we are waiting for a cure/vaccine. You can't have it both ways.

It just leaves less of an economy for us to return to. Takes the livelihood away from millions of small business owners. For what? Because it makes you feel better to have 1k deaths/day for 8 months instead of 2k deaths/day for 4 months? 3 more months of hiding is not going to make it magically go away. It just prolongs the inevitable.

Why do people have such a hard time understanding this?

 

[CHOPTALK]

Mob and others around here keen on telling people they "don't respect the virus." My leftist friends opine that too many people "don't respect the seriousness of the virus."

I would posit that the ones who don't "respect the seriousness" are the ones who think a couple more months of hiding is going to make it magically go away.

Just tell them they don’t respect the seriousness of a broke down economy .
Tell then they don’t respect the seriousness of people having to put off cancer treatments .
Or respect the seriousness of suicides and domestic issues .

I was all for a 2 month lockdown . We simply could not afford to let the hospitals get over run .

This is all the shutdown was supposed to be about .

Somewhere down the line everyone moved the goal post and decided that that is not the reason for the shutdown .
Now they want a cure .

 

[festeringZit]

With it now clear that the hospital system will not be "overrun", there is no benefit in continuing to flatten the curve. Zero. Unless we are waiting for a cure/vaccine. You can't have it both ways.

It just leaves less of an economy for us to return to. Takes the livelihood away from millions of small business owners. For what? Because it makes you feel better to have 1k deaths/day for 8 months instead of 2k deaths/day for 4 months? 3 more months of hiding is not going to make it magically go away. It just prolongs the inevitable.

Nailed it.

 

[HarryCaray]

Just tell them they don’t respect the seriousness of a broke down economy .
Tell then they don’t respect the seriousness of people having to put off cancer treatments .
Or respect the seriousness of suicides and domestic issues .

I was all for a 2 month lockdown . We simply could not afford to let the hospitals get over run .

This is all the shutdown was supposed to be about .

Somewhere down the line everyone moved the goal post and decided that that is not the reason for the shutdown .
Now they want a cure .

Yeah, it's a very intellectually dishonest game they play. The same way they complain that we are not doing enough testing; then we increase testing and they yell from the rooftops about an increase in confirmed cases. The same way they rip Trump for "downplaying the virus" but praise Fauci. The same way they want to impeach Trump because the death toll is high, but throw up a #cuomoforpresident hashtag. All the while these same people will chastise the right for "politicizing the virus". You asked awhile back when/why I drifted right over the years. It's this type of behavior and hypocrisy, exhibited consistently...

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

Yeah, it's a very intellectually dishonest game they play. The same way they complain that we are not doing enough testing; then we increase testing and they yell from the rooftops about an increase in confirmed cases. The same way they rip Trump for "downplaying the virus" but praise Fauci. The same way they want to impeach Trump because the death toll is high, but throw up a #cuomoforpresident hashtag. All the while these same people will chastise the right for "politicizing the virus". You asked awhile back when/why I drifted right over the years. It's this type of behavior and hypocrisy, exhibited consistently...

Oh fairycarrey making up shit again.


Im certainly not doing that. We ramped up the testing....guess what? We need more. We need even more testing than what they ramped up.

You don’t read enough. You think this shit is over with and everybody can get back to normal life. WRONG. Doing that would be catastrophic. That’s why no matter how much you tout that our country is open....we really aren’t. Our normal life has been modified for the foreseeable future. Learn to deal with it and stop crying like a soft little bitch about why we’re closed.


You were wrong from the very beginning.


WHY are we still closed in some areas? Because the best information we have tells us doing a herd immunity even RIGHT NOW would be an attempt to kill another 400K more Americans.


Why are we still closed where I live? Because areas around me are still bad. Of course it was about not overwhelming hospitals. But the #1 concern and purpose was to slow the spread of the virus...everywhere. So we don’t have Americans die. You can’t just open up a country right outside of a hot spot and act like it won’t spread there too.



You guys think this is all about money. All of it. Fucking embarrassing. This is about human life. You still don’t understand that you need to kill yourself, seriously.

Keep trying to dehumanize this shit like the full blown retard that you are.

 

[CHOPTALK]

HC never said anything about this being over with .
Opening does not imply that this is over .
Why do people have such a hard time reading ?

 

[HarryCaray]

You guys think this is all about money. All of it. Fucking embarrassing. This is about human life. You still don’t understand that you need to kill yourself, seriously.

Human life requires money. I'm not sure how you think these multi-trillion dollar relief packages are going to get funded, not to mention the social welfare programs relied upon by your pet demographic. If you still don't understand that what we are doing will have a generational impact to quality of life, you need to kill yourself. Fucking embarrassing.

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

HC never said anything about this being over with .
Opening does not imply that this is over .
Why do people have such a hard time reading ?

Lmfao. Yeah spin it for the clown. He said why should we wait 3 more months? Implying “let’s open now.” Don’t think I don’t know what you trump loyalists are saying and mean. You guys are willing to do ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING to ensure trumps re-election. Even if that means bending over for his administration or even if that makes sacrificing another 400K American lives. Y’all are terrorists

 

[HarryCaray]

HC never said anything about this being over with .
Opening does not imply that this is over .
Why do people have such a hard time reading ?

He just makes shit up. Loves to hear himself talk.

 

[CHOPTALK]

Lmfao. Yeah spin it for the clown. He said why should we wait 3 more months? Implying “let’s open now.” Don’t think I don’t know what you trump loyalists are saying and mean. You guys are willing to do ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING to ensure trumps re-election. Even if that means bending over for his administration or even if that makes sacrificing another 400K American lives. Y’all are terrorists

Just hopeless.
Not going to waste my time

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

Human life requires money. I'm not sure how you think these multi-trillion dollar relief packages are going to get funded, not to mention the social welfare programs relied upon by your pet demographic. If you still don't understand that what we are doing will have a generational impact to quality of life, you need to kill yourself. Fucking embarrassing.

Well, how was the last one funded? Borrowed. Lmao. We are already in trillions dollars of debt.

You want to save businesses. I want to save live. Save lives. Rebuild the economy after.


Larry Hogan for prez. Goat.

 

[Meano]

You can increase testing all you want but what people have known from the beginning is that you wont show symptoms for a few days after your infected. I'll save from the long version but youre essentially chasing a ghost. The virus is going to infect "x" amount of people no matter what type precaution is taken the only thing society can try to alter is the duration of how long that process takes.

 

[mango]

With it now clear that the hospital system will not be "overrun", there is no benefit in continuing to flatten the curve. Zero. Unless we are waiting for a cure/vaccine. You can't have it both ways.

It just leaves less of an economy for us to return to. Takes the livelihood away from millions of small business owners. For what? Because it makes you feel better to have 1k deaths/day for 8 months instead of 2k deaths/day for 4 months? 3 more months of hiding is not going to make it magically go away. It just prolongs the inevitable.

"It's only 1 person from China."
"15 will soon go down to 0."

Remember those quotes? 1.5M infected and 90k deaths later, you think we're in better shape than when those quotes were made by your Orange Loon? All it takes is one lapse in policy to return to 35k infections/3k deaths per day and hospitals overflowing with COVID-19 patients again. And reopening too soon before we are ready may be the one.

What economy do you think we're gonna return to with a deadly pandemic hanging over us? It will never return to normal until it's under control and no longer a pandemic. Even Sweden tried what you guys swore would work, no lock-downs and not only did they have 10x the infections and deaths as their Nordic neighbors but their economy is in a Recession and in even worse shape.

Let's face it, only reason you guys want to re-open is cause the only chance Orange Loon has to win re-election is a strong economy since he has nothing else to crow about. Unfortunately for you, he blew his only chance back in January when he called it a Hoax and spent 2 months attending Nazi rallies and golfing vacations instead of taking the Pandemic seriously and testing/quarantining like South Korea did. It's over for your Orange Loon.... so the only decent thing you guys could do is save as many lives as possible, even the old folks your side hates with a passion by closing down until it's safe to re-open.

 

[StevieRay]

Why do people have such a hard time understanding this?

Unhealthy and old stay home , non vaginal real men and women go to work

 

[slapshot]

With the advancement of science thinking a vaccine around 2714 is possible